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Or if not _it_ (perhaps there are an infinitude of them), at least _one_. "Consciousness" is a phenomenon, like "Physics". All consciousness is the same phenomenon operating on differing contexts.

That reads to me like I'm not saying anything at all, but the concept of consciousness in phenomenological debates is often problematic to me. Somehow. Somewhere. We are conscious, therefore we assume x, y, quifnut.

And like physics, paired particles of consciousness can (possibly) influence each other across long distances, yeah?

Just a thought. :) Feel free to shoot a billion holes in it. Or ask "Why?" because that's a big enough hole in itself, I think. It came from reading a proof of the existence of a creator (not any particular creator, just something outside of this spacetime), and trying to find the right words... I haven't quite found the right words, but I've got too much workworkwork and playworkwork to focus on it the way it requires just now.

[[Oh, and--previous post--I am not a unique and beautiful snowflake, of course. I've had my #1 broken twice now.]]

ETA: this is what got me started, give or take. I've done a poor job of summarizing its key points.

[given that it is believed to be four-dimensionally static, to an extent], the reality that we live within and perceive must have been sequentially created (thus accounting for the obvious causes and effects we observe) in a higher dimensional time, [...] and then became static, exactly as a painting does upon completion. Quite simply, a cause must precede its effect within existence, which cannot be the case if both the cause and the effect have always existed simultaneously.

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tallaudrey
Jul. 3rd, 2008 04:59 am (UTC)
To quote my spiritual guide, Ralph Wiggam: "I have a cat called Mittens! His breath smells like catfood."
kaolinfire
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:02 am (UTC)
Thanks :)
tallaudrey
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:52 am (UTC)
Don't worry - this is the thing I think when I hear China Mieville and his giant brain talking. It's my 'I feel very small in the universe' fallback position.
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kaolinfire
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:02 am (UTC)
That's a fair reply, too. :/
louise_bohmer
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:06 am (UTC)
But, what is space /time IS the creator. Ahah! Sorry, I need some sleep, badly. :A
louise_bohmer
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:07 am (UTC)
That first 'is' should be 'if'. *sighs* Bad editor lady.
kaolinfire
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:10 am (UTC)
silly (well, for some value) blogposts and tired => englix funzor. :)
louise_bohmer
Jul. 3rd, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
heheheheee
kaolinfire
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:09 am (UTC)
:heheh:

The argument was along the lines of ... if something is static then it can't change. If it can't change, then something a dimension "higher" must have caused it. spacetime is static--so it couldn't have created itself, and nothing inside of it could have either.

But, hrm. Yeah. Something. Okay, I think I've found a question to pose... robots are as four dimensional as humans (perhaps not as deep, but then... some humans...). Yet humans can create them. Hmmzor.
kaolinfire
Jul. 3rd, 2008 08:19 am (UTC)
nope, I misremembered the gist of the whole thing. Hah. :)
louise_bohmer
Jul. 3rd, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
Stop, my brain hurts, and I have not had enough coffee yet. ;-)
comment13
Oct. 19th, 2008 04:05 am (UTC)
a unique and beautiful snowflake
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